| Questioning Bank 
            Fees(November 24, 2019 letter to Eaton Federal Savings Bank)
 Jesus often used parables to 
            teach the point He was trying to make. There are times when the use 
            of a story form can help us to clarify our position as well. I am adding 
            this five years after the fact because I thought it might be beneficial 
            to share it anyway. The text is self-explanatory.  _____________ 
            .jpg) November 24, 2019 Eaton Federal Savings BankGrand Ledge and Charlotte, MI
 To whom it may concern, On November 12, 2019 a charge was made against our 
            checking account number [removed] in the amount of $89.94 that we were 
            unaware of. This triggered a $50 NSF fee for two checks which arrived 
            at the bank November 18, 2019, that were supposed to be covered by those 
            funds. The $89.94 charge was from a company offering a free trial of 
            an herbal product online for shipping and handling of only $6.94. I 
            called to cancel any pending shipments upon learning of the charges, 
            then sent the company an email containing the following excerpts: “I just checked your site again. The 15 day cancellation 
            period is not prominently displayed anywhere. The highlighted terms 
            and conditions link below the information boxes did not work. I finally 
            found a link at the bottom of the screen. That was the first I saw the 
            actual “free” scam you are running. Neither the order confirmation, 
            nor the shipping emails you sent, mention the 15 day terms & conditions, 
            or even allude to them. The obvious conclusion for all these omissions 
            is you do not want people to become aware of them until it is too late 
            to do anything about it.  I became aware of the problem only because 
            of two NSF $25 charges showing up on my checking account when your $89.94 
            debit cleared before two legitimate charges . . . . . . . . While I am sure you consider yourself functioning 
            within legal business parameters, I see you now as nothing but a cheap 
            scam. You as much admitted it yourselves when your customer service 
            agent tried to justify your misleading ways by telling me in no uncertain 
            terms, 'you should have known there is no such thing as really free.' 
            As a former business owner, I corrected her, that there are indeed any 
            number of legitimate companies with good products who offer a free sample 
            of something because they have faith in their product, and its ability 
            to generate interest in a legitimate purchase without being tricked 
            into anything . . . . “ The $89.94 was credited back to our account on November 
            21, 2019.   When we stopped at the bank on 11/19 to do some routine 
            banking, the person taking care of my wife asked if she was aware our 
            checking had a negative balance. We immediately transferred $90, from 
            our Special Use account, which typically has a balance of around three 
            thousand dollars, to cover the shortage. I identified the issue immediately 
            and shared it with one of your associates. She did not mention I should 
            be aware there might be NSF charges. I only became aware of them when 
            I went online 11/20 to transfer money for a two hundred dollar check 
            I was writing for having our van repaired. I saw a negative balance 
            again, and thought it might be the less than ethical company, until 
            I saw the charges that had placed my account in jeopardy again were 
            from you.   I went into the Grand Ledge branch the following 
            day to ask if you thought the $50 charge was reasonable considering 
            you basically loaned us $89.94 for less than forty-eight hours, and 
            why you had not bothered to send me an email, or text message, either 
            time my account was put in jeopardy. I was asked if I had had fees refunded 
            before. I said 30 years banking with you was a long time to remember. 
            She indicated the question only referred to recently. The question felt 
            quite demeaning, as if I were a person who was sloppy in my financial 
            affairs, or routinely delinquent in my accounts. She informed me she 
            could give me a “courtesy” refund of $25, leaving a $25 charge. She 
            also asked if I wanted overdraft protection which would have cost only 
            $5 per transaction. On my way out, I stepped into the branch manager’s 
            office to inform him that I would be removing $2500 of the $7500 CD 
            I had maturing on 11/28/19, and taking it elsewhere.    When I returned home and told my wife, she asked 
            why I was only doing $2500. That started me thinking about the reality 
            of the circumstances. I concluded, that if I had gone to a friend of 
            30 years. Told him I had been tricked by an online company that left 
            me short $89.94 temporarily. And, asked could he possibly loan me $89.94 
            for 48 hours, if I were willing to put up $10,000 worth of collateral 
            to show I was good for the money. If he responded it would be no problem 
            and he would only charge me $50, which was less than a stranger would, 
            I would be perplexed. If then he told me as a “courtesy” he would reduce 
            that to twenty-five, I suspect the “customer appreciating” financial 
            experts at Eaton Federal Savings Bank would advise me I had a loan shark 
            for a friend, and it might be time to look elsewhere for a new one. 
             Then I thought about the overdraft protection offer. 
            In this case it would have cost me $10. I can transfer money online 
            from one of my accounts to another for free. I can come into the bank 
            and have you transfer money for me from one of my accounts to another 
            for free. But if you see I am in need, and you transfer money for me 
            without my being there, it would cost me $5 per transaction. Even $10 
            on $89.94 for 48 hours translates into quite an annual interest rate, 
            let alone $25, or the original $50. Of course, this is not interest, 
            these are routine bank fees. Still, people are becoming more astute 
            as technology offers more information and options. I wonder how long 
            some banks will survive holding onto Neanderthal banking ways in a twenty-first 
            century world?   As it happens, I actually have another friend. When 
            you had nothing affordable to offer me as a small business many years 
            ago, I got things set up with Michigan State University Federal Credit 
            Union. I ran this scenario by them 11/22, as I was setting up a new 
            account with them. There is no charge for overdraft protection, and 
            it can even be multi-tiered. And, though they have higher $30 NSF fees, 
            “since I did not go on a buying spree with complete disregard for my 
            balance” (their words) all NSF charges would have been immediately removed 
            upon the explanation of the actual circumstances.   Thirty years, and $10,000 of collateral was not enough 
            for you. I like Eaton Federal Savings Bank. I like the corporate structure 
            of a mutual company (much like a credit union). I like that it is not 
            a huge impersonal national bank. But, none of that helped us out through 
            the course of events last week. We cannot afford a bank that thinks 
            a $25 charge is reasonable for covering $89.94 when we have $3000 on 
            deposit to easily cover it, and $7500 backing that up.   Maybe in this week of Thanksgiving, I should be thankful 
            for the “courtesy” refund of half of the $50 fees. However, it still 
            seems disproportionate to me. Therefore, this letter is to inform you 
            not to renew the certificate [number removed] I set up a year ago which 
            will mature November 28, 2019. The maturing balance of $7,613.16 can 
            be electronically transferred, if there is no cost to us, to MSUFCU 
            bank routing and transfer number [removed] account number
            [removed]. 
            Otherwise, just place it back into our special use savings, and I will 
            come in Friday, or at my earliest convenience thereafter, to close out 
            that account to take to MSUFCU. If you opt to electronically transfer 
            (with no cost), we will still eventually be closing the special use 
            savings, and the checking after everything clears. That will leave only 
            our smaller household savings account at Eaton Federal.    
             Respectfully, [Signed copy delivered to Grand Ledge branch in person.] William E Gibbons Jr.   _____________ The branch manager left a voicemail message on 
            our phone saying he thought the letter made some very good points, 
            and he would be refunding the second fee as well. We received this 
            simple email confirming this.   From: Ken Seelman <kseelman@eatonfed.com>Date: Tue 11/26/2019 4:25 PM
 To: dbg3462@gmail.com
 Subject: fee
 Per my vmail this afternoon, that 2nd fee is back into 
            your account. Kenneth T. Seelman NMLS #423500
 EATON FEDERAL SAVING BANK
 Customer Owned, Customer Focused
 Branch Manager
 Assistant Vice President
 Grand Ledge Office
 Direct: 517-213-7049
 Fax: 517-627-9524
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            you. _____________ When I originally went to the bank, I had asked 
            to see the branch manager, but was taken instead to see someone who 
            I was told could take care of my issue. As a business man all of my 
            adult life, I would not think that turned out to be true for them 
            considering the $25 she deemed appropriate lost their bank $10,000 
            we had deposited there. And, could have potentially lost a 30 year 
            customer. But, when the branch manager was finally involved, and 
            refunded the second $25, we decided to keep one small savings 
            account, and one checking account with what is today Eaton Community 
            Bank. It was not that difficult a decision. The savings still gets a 
            monthly retirement direct deposit we use for grocery money. The 
            tithe (10% for charitable giving) from that amount is automatically 
            transferred to the checking. We simply write donation checks from 
            it, nothing else. No debit card, or other use, is made of the 
            checking, so there should never be a recurrence of this scenario. 
            Fees are still a part of the ECB way of doing business. I do not 
            know if anything changed as a result of my letter, but in our 
            circumstance it felt like justice prevailed.   _____________ 
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